1408. Validating Husband—Doting Wife


Her Highness Not-so-annonymous Anne (aka Annonymous) seeks to better understand her marital dynamics. Earlier she provided info that prompted 1405. At post 855 she explains further and stimulates two articles, yesterday’s (1407) and this one. Today’s post springs from this part of Anne’s comment:

“(On second thought, I DID change, and that seems to be something you’ve said husbands do NOT want to see. Even if I thought my change away from super-independent woman to doting wife was “for the better,” maybe he did not. Is it possible he wants me to have stayed that way and just sort-of got bored with the “new [super-devoted] me”?!)”

The short answer is probably yes. Details follow about wifely behaviors on the spectrum from doting to prudence.

‘Doting’ at one end means demonstrating great love and fondness for someone. Synonyms: loving, devoted, affectionate. Go too far and wife loses and her marriage crumbles. These are too far:

  • Wives whose conscientiousness exceeds their education about the male nature tend to become too doting.
  • Her ONLY guides for good wifeing are her conscience, her drive to live up to the expectations of others outside her marriage, or her dedication to religious and moral principles that can have multiple meanings when being translated by her trying to live with a man.
  • She’s overly attentive with excessive concern, caring, and affection usually translated as ‘mothering him’.
  • She tries ever harder because nothing she does seems to work as she expects. She follows up by misinterpreting husband’s feedback until much relationship damage is done or it’s too late.
  • She has dedicated herself to being the ideal or perfect wife.
  • She tries to please herself by pleasing her husband. She uses her intentions rather than his expectations. She ignores logic. She repeatedly exerts more of herself in response to his not reacting as she expects, and so she becomes ever more doting.
  • The more she dotes, the more he withdraws. She selfishly tries to earn more of husband’s attention, affection, respect, and favor. The more he fails to respond, the sooner she puts on the martyr’s crown. It has the unfortunate effect of closing her mind to other options. Martyrdom is quite glorifying, or so she thinks, and she keeps inflicting the same punishment and guilt upon herself. Husband meanwhile and guilt-free has been reaching for the ejection handle.
  • If she tries to make husband like her as a great and noble wife, she fails. She comes across as trying too hard and he thinks he’s not worth it. The more humans try to make someone like them, the more likely they fail. Such people become unlikeable. It never works because the target loses respect for the person trying. In the sales game, the harder a salesman tries to convince the buyer that he the salesman knows what’s best for the buyer, guess what happens. No sale!

Responding to Her Highness Anne expanded into two articles. Tomorrow’s post describes the prudent wife.

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5 Responses to 1408. Validating Husband—Doting Wife

  1. I always find getting on with my own supra-packed life is a good direction to take….

  2. Cassy

    Hmmm, I’m wondering if this is perhaps where my mom also went wrong. Does a man start to dislike his wive if she appears to be a bit afraid of him? My mom often tip toes on egg shells around my dad and resorts to nervous laughter if he’s in a fowl mood. I think men translate “doting” as “doormat”. Whenever there is a big question to ask my father, especially if it concerns money, I get pushed forward to go ask him. I think there is a balance to maintain between not competing with him, yet retaining your feisty side :)

    Your Highness Cassy,

    You describe a very common situation very well. And I’m sorry to hear it.

    Men don’t respect someone afraid of them. Such people are unlikeable, which means that your mom tiptoeing around her husband translates to doormat.

    However, it’s not a balance but a difference that exists between competing and letting a woman’s feisty side emerge. Competition is a joint effort, and using feistiness to protect one’s dignity is a solitary matter that rises above competition. Without her dignity, she’s worth little to herself, which means she lacks value to anyone else.

    When mom sends you to intervene over money affairs, she’s revealing lack of dignity, which he translates as lack of worth, which she sees as confirmation of her own sense of worthlessness, which makes her more unlikeable to him, which confirms his lack of respect for and love of her. It’s a vicious cycle caused by mom never letting her feisty side show up in dad’s face. (It doesn’t matter if she loses the battle, men respect those that ‘get in their face’. A fresh start with respect could perhaps reverse the degenerative loop they live in.)

    Guy

    • not-so-annonymous-Anne

      This is quite fascinating because I *have* been “doting” but at the same time walking on eggshells due to my husband’s temper (which didn’t bother me as much before we had kids, but now I want to keep the kids from experiencing his explosions). Of course I cannot control *his* choices so I just tiptoe around keeping him “happy” (or bored as it now seems) so he never gets his feathers ruffled at home. Incidentally, two nights ago I tried remaining mysterious, quiet, and letting him see by my face that I was not thrilled with his emotional response-choice. I said not a word to soothe him or patch things over for him with the kids. Amazing results: he apologized to everyone and voluntarily offered to “do over” the situation he had botched up! I did not drool all over this idea but simply smiled (I WAS happy afterall), kept quiet, and let him do it himself. I have not seen him that pro-active in a long time. It was nice!!

      Your Highness Anne,
      Here’s why it worked that way. Your silence made him question himself, guilt set in, and men don’t long live with guilt. They do something to obliterate or forget it. He chose the former path. Good work on your part.
      Guy

    • Claire

      I saw something similar play out at home. It was almost like my dad wanted my mom to stand up and be a little bit of a smart aleck some days. When she cowered and made comments and asked questions without confidence,he went on like a know it all. It was on a fairly rare occasion that she would really go off,never yelling, but with the upper hand of knowing more in a situation, etc., that my dad would respect her and almost cowered in his behaviour to her like she did to him. Interesting.

  3. LatinaLady1422

    Very interesting…been struggling with this in my marriage too…would like to pick up some of these skills of being fiesty…

    Your Highness LatinaLady,
    Welcome aboard. It’s a great day when another pretty woman joins us on this cruise to WhatWomenNeverHear.
    Guy

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