2432. Conquest and Consequences


As Her Highness Tiffani reports it at 2430, modern women have twisted fact into fancy. They’ve lost any sane understanding of the consequences of a man’s conquest and romantic love.

Tiffani says, “My query is along the lines of romantic attraction and physical attraction fading once conquered. Does this apply to both genders?” No, not naturally. Women bond during sex but men don’t. Conquest frees a man to conquer elsewhere. Women lack that sex drive, except when they stupidly—if they want a good husband—fake it by acting like men to fit into the male-dominant pop culture.

Also, “This is pretty sobering, you know that modern society promotes that honeymoon phase of physical attraction/ romantic infatuation as THE ultimate reason to marry, the ultimate reason to pursue someone, and lack thereof as the reason to cheat, divorce, and not even consider someone for a connection.” If accurate, women are dumber dealing with men than I ever imagined.

Perhaps I can cast a more accurate light on conquest and its inevitable results. I shall describe it in steps that lead to conquest of her for sex or conquest of him for marriage. (This series elaborates on what follows below: Marriage Can Last.)

Single women face the following. Expect it to be an accurate model of manly behavior 80 percent of the time, which should enable them to more easily deal with men and avoid breakups that so easily devastate the female spirit.

  1. Men have two distinctly different sex drives. One for unconquered women, which prompts them to change to please a worthy woman in order to conquer. His changes generate greater interest and his actions to please her can rise to devotion. So, competitive spirit and denial works directly in her favor by eliciting female-friendly changes in a man. A man’s other sex drive is for conquered women, which doesn’t motivate men to be willing to change to please a woman. Thus, males are born distinctly different from females.
  2. A man sees an attractive woman and determines to have her for sex. Presuming he’s good enough for her, she hopes to conquer him for marriage. They begin a relationship.
  3. Somewhere along the line infatuation and lust dovetail into romantic love that becomes enhanced by more time together. It easily happens that way for a woman, but not so surely for a man. Depending on the low worth he detects in her for his life, he can disguise himself behind a façade that enhances his primal urge to conquer, which encourages him to move on to the next target.
  4. The more he tries and she refuses, the more his sex drive to conquer urges him to look for weakness to bed her. He remains motivated to keep looking until he gets her there—be that before or after marriage—or else he determines she’s not worth his fruitless attempts and heads for the exit.

The most sensitive aspects of her relationship expertise are required to anticipate and head off his desire to exit. Unfortunately, women see yielding as the way to avoid his departure, but it usually only prolongs the inevitable—he departs after conquest, because his initial decision was that she’s not worthy enough for him.

  1. Along their infatuated or romantic way, he determines her worth to him to be a keeper (worthy of him), booty (not worthy but okay), or disposable (not worthy). Of course it’s never disclosed truthfully to her; she finds out, however, if she yields before marriage. Millions or more women have figured they were keepers only to find out they weren’t worthy enough.

Which begs the question: How does she ensure that she’s worthy? Answer: The only way, she conquers him for marriage before he conquers her for sex.

  1. In between exploiting weaknesses that don’t make her yield, he uncovers and discovers—somewhat to his amazement that a woman could be so blessed—that she has qualities that he admires. Each admired quality becomes a virtue in his eyes. The longer he searches and fruitlessly exploits her weaknesses, the more virtues he uncovers; men want to marry a virtuous woman.

(It’s a satisfying thought and contribution to his sense of significance if he catches a good woman by outdoing his male competitors. He can admire himself with her on his arm. Next to their urge to conquer, men are motivated by need for self-admiration, satisfaction with their efforts, and significance that arises out of satisfactions that elicit pride.)

  1. The longer she refuses to yield, the more virtuous she grows, and the more deeply she can wrap him in her web of feminine charm. Until almost without notice, she becomes fascinating to him, he desires to be with her much of the time, and his actions to please her start the buildup of his devotion.
  2. As her fascination and his devotion grow, he sees that she holds promise for improving his present life. She can’t convince him of her promise with words; he has to conclude it by evaluating their actions together and imagining his plans after they bond legally. Unless he anticipates some change in his life, he doesn’t plan much about their future together. It’s her department.
  3. Throughout their relationship with her legs crossed, his respect for her grows. Men, being competitive by nature, appreciate and come to respect someone who successfully protects their greatest asset. Men do that routinely, and so it’s easy to respect it in women with their magnificent asset. (Yes, that’s the natural source of a man’s respect; that earned otherwise is a less stable kind.)
  4. Cradled within the foundation of respect of her, a man’s love can develop. Much different from female love, it develops slowly as infatuation and romantic love fade during the first couple of years. Romantic love developed previously as infatuation and lust morphed into greater respect for her and his ability to accept her as a prospect to be his woman.

(An exception exists. Men can fall in love at first sight. It’s characterized by his apparent devotion to her and only her from day one, as if he’s capable of worshiping her and it may well end up that way.)

  1. One of man’s greatest fears, a stab in the heart of his significance, is to be dumped by his woman. Consequently, his love is complex and slow to develop. His best preventive to being dumped is to see the following conditions before he commits to himself that he’s in love. She’s a likeable mate and he’s loyal to her; he’s a likeable mate and she’s loyal to him.

Of course women want to hear three little words, and men usually respond to please their woman; it’s a cheap way to calm her and her fears. But his words are not nearly as solid as his actions, which is why women hear I love you followed soon thereafter with a goodbye.

  1. It all ends here: She conquers him for marriage without yielding, and his hopefully ever growing respect of her floods their relationship with a permanence of love not available in other ways, except perhaps if he fell in love at first sight. Or, he conquers her without marriage, his respect for chastity stops growing and she drops into one of these barrels: Keeper, even though his respect never had sufficient time to fully develop. Booty, where his appreciation of her is worth his sexual attention when convenient. Or, disposable, where she’s left with puzzlement and grief that she could be so unexpectedly left behind.

Women are born to dream of love and marriage and long for the family that enables them to make themselves important to others. Knowing more and dealing better with the male sex drive to conquer is the best place to start.

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13 responses to “2432. Conquest and Consequences

  1. Meow Meow

    Sir Guy,
    on #4, if she doesn’t give in to bed, you say the man decides she’s “not worth his fruitless efforts.” Do you mean he decides she isn’t worthy for sex/marriage after resisting him for so long? That makes it sound she is unworthy of him either way whether she gives in to him or not! Or maybe is it that he decides she may be worthy of someone else’s patience, but he’s personally run out of it and not willing to take the next step….?
    Thanks Sir Guy!

    Your Highness Meow Meow,

    You’re exactly correct with this: “Do you mean he decides she isn’t worthy for sex/marriage after resisting him for so long? That makes it sound she is unworthy of him either way whether she gives in to him or not!”

    She never had him interested enough in HER for him to try any longer. Just not worth his effort given her level of worthiness compared to his present day efforts. IOW, she never was a keeper.

    Guy

    • Meow Meow

      OK got it—the not interested in “her” was the key. Thank you for clarifying Sir Guy! (So tired i was not sure if I read it right!)

    • That Horse Is Dead

      Sir Guy,
      In a platonic relationship where there is chemistry, what would cause a man to flirt but never try to kiss if the sex drive to conquer is always there? Assuming the woman is attractive to him. And assuming hygiene is not an issue. There are male/female friendships that continue and the man never makes a sexual move but the flirting is obvious. This reminds me of the “When Harry Met Sally” question about whether or not men and women can be “just friends”or does the sexual tension always get in the way. What prevents him from trying?

      Your Highness That Horse Is Dead,
      My guess he’s either gay, or a player using vague and unavailable techniques. I agree with the When Harry Met Sally that tension overpowers friendship.
      Guy

      • Cocoa

        Sir Guy, in relation to THID query, could it at all be that the man likes her and respects so much that he fears losing her if he tried to kiss her? I think that might be the case if she’s on the higher modest spectrum. You know, these girls/ladies that kind off ‘talk to me as you wish but come close to me not’. I think smart men notice and can figure out the level of modesty in a girl. Just a thought but I might be wrong.

        Your Highness Cocoa,
        Wish I had thought of that, because you’re very likely right on. Great finish for my effort. Thanks.
        Guy

        • Cocoa

          Sir Guy, I learnt this from *you* 😊
          When a man have a lot of respect for a woman, he’s extra careful not to fail. He apologies sincerely if he missed the mark and he feels his way through her grace nicely and slowly. I think it all comes in place when the man feels she is different. As you explained to me before, naturally and sincerely different and not for the sake of being different (aka mystique). I think that’s when they pull back reassess their everyday dealings with other women and apply what suits this pleasing creature.

          Tell me sir Guy, if you agree with the above, is it absolutely necessary that the man in this case would like to have access to this creature physically or would he be satisfied being around her for nothing more than just being there?

          Your Highness Cocoa,
          Yes, he would crave to have her physically at least once. Having conquered her, their future together would depend mostly on who and what she is personally in his heart and mind. If he longs for her over, above, and beyond conquest—whether past or still to come—yes, he would be satisfied around her.
          Guy

  2. KitKat

    Apparently, I am a true exception, every man who I’ve dated seems to have fallen in love with me at first sight. I am awesome.

    • Do you mean true love which respects and protects, or do you mean what passes for love these days, that is, something like, “Hey, hot Momma, let me get some of what you got!”

      I believe the more accurate term would be lust. If you are exceptionally physically attractive and surrounded by selfish, horny bastards, no wonder you are such a cynic.

  3. Etu

    the guy i am seeing told me the first time he saw me he knew i had a ‘servant’s heart.’ of course that is very aspirational for me and i confess as a female, even though it makes my heart giddy to hear that i do think for a second, how can you look at someone for the first time and draw that conclusion? i don’t know if he fell in love with me at first sight. however i do now believe that is very possible for men, even and especially if i don’t understand it as a woman! *smiles*

    Your Highness Etu,

    At times we all draw impulsive conclusions, which then become self-fulfilling prophecies as we search for proof of each conclusion.

    He may be a player, but servant’s heart doesn’t ring with me as indicative of it.
    Don’t know either about love at first sight for him, but it strikes me that he likes you a great deal because of what he observed on your first encounter. He may be a Mr. Good Enough, but only time will tell.

    Guy

    • The term “player” is a bit of a problem for me here.

      I think of a player as a man who is very emotionally immature and selfish who has learned how to get what he wants (sex where possible, lots of attention where sex is not possible) without really having to give up anything in return. He just makes it *seem* like he’s investing in a relationship. And he does it purposefully for his own gratification.

      I’m not sure how a man who has spiritual, especially Christian, values, and who takes them seriously, fits in the category of player or why he would use a player’s strategies.

      Your Highness Edith Mcklveen,
      You describe the player pretty well. Not all Christians have sufficient spiritual and Christian values that they always abide by them.
      Guy

  4. Femme

    Women are born to dream of love and marriage and long for the family that enables them to make themselves important to others. Knowing more and dealing better with the male sex drive to conquer is the best place to start

    Sir Guy,
    on this very topic.
    I have just had a conversation with a female cousin of mine.
    She was married to a guy who was 4 years younger and, as she herself said, she felt intellectually and otherwise superior… She treated him more like son. They divorced after 7 years. She then had a 14 year relationship with a guy who never worked in his life for more than a few months at a time and on top of that is an active alcoholic. She practically supported him throughout until she had enough. She threw him out but continues giving him money occasionally because she feels sorry for him.
    She also says she is not the type of woman to want to stay in the house and cook meals and look after children. She would be OK with him staying in and do the cooking etc IF he was more of a partner and cooperated and gave more of himself instead of just drinking and blowing the money that she made.
    Then she said she knew a couple who reversed the traditional roles and the man takes care of the house and cooks etc. and the woman is more of a businesswoman. Apparently they are very happy together. It works for them because the man DOES act like a partner instead of like a sponge.
    I’ve heard very similar stories from quite a few friends of mine…
    So is it really that ALL women long for family and marriage?
    Can an arrangement like the above really work if both people are happy about it? Where the woman has more masculine traits and the man more feminine?
    Is it because of the role reversal that hormonally we are changing as a human race?
    Personally I have always been confused as to what exactly did it mean to be a woman.
    In my family of origin my mother had very masculine traits and work was her no 1 preoccupation. But then, she had very unreliable partners.
    It meant that there was nobody in the house to love, nourish and nurture.
    Why do you think women would choose to take on the masculine role?

    Your Highness Femme,

    The anecdotes you cite may work for some but they violate principles that normally lead to successful marriage. See if they last for life.

    Q. So is it really that ALL women long for family and marriage?
    A. They start there. Ask prepubescent girls raised in good two-parent households and close families. See if they dream about it.

    Q. Can an arrangement like the above really work if both people are happy about it? Where the woman has more masculine traits and the man more feminine?
    A. If they continue successfully for life it worked.

    Q. Is it because of the role reversal that hormonally we are changing as a human race?
    A. Perhaps. If so, it could be many years before we know for sure.

    Q. Personally I have always been confused as to what exactly did it mean to be a woman.
    A. You may find answers in the page at blog top titled FEMALE BLESSINGS AT BIRTH.

    Q. In my family of origin my mother had very masculine traits and work was her no 1 preoccupation. But then, she had very unreliable partners.
    A. That seems to be a common match up. The former attracts the latter, and is probably normal for the match.

    Q. It meant that there was nobody in the house to love, nourish and nurture.
    Why do you think women would choose to take on the masculine role?
    A. First, they have poor upbringing that doesn’t confirm their female identity as special and superior. Second, because their mind isn’t filled with mature adult values, standards, and expectations before puberty, it fills up from unfounded, underdeveloped, and impersonal adolescent ideas compounded by feminist and other political propaganda. The result is a physical adult and mental adolescent, aka adultolescent.

    Guy

    • Miss Gina

      Dear Lady Femme,

      Your questions are very interesting. On top of Sir Guy’s relevant and very wise answers, I would submit a possibly related side issue. Some doctors are now pointing out that many people of both sexes are significantly imbalanced in their sex hormones. Some men have too much estrogen and some women too much testosterone. There are hundreds of hormones and many imbalance combinations, but I wonder if this particular combination could be influencing behavior to a great degree in some cases. Causes run from excessive stress to poor nutrition to chemical exposure to medications–even behavior affects hormones! I am not a medical professional, but if the subject is of interest, the web is full of studies and information by doctors and others in the field.

      • Sarina

        Many males are lazy and uninterested in pursuing women in countries where feminism thrive. They simply don’t take any initiative whatsoever, US is still manly because there are men from various backgrounds, but UK, Sweden, France, Germany – these are countries where the ‘masculine’ man is frown upon and the male ‘buddy’ friend is the partner.
        When we think of Spain, Italy and Greece, even Russia, the man remains somewhat masculine. Nowadays as women we seem to have 2 main options: the ‘caveman’ more brutish and instinctual or the weak, overly sensitive guy.

  5. Femme

    Dear Sabrina,
    I couldn’t agree more.
    I personally think that as women went more yang, men had no choice but to go more yin – because nature always strives for balance.
    The fact is that in order to sustain ourselves we need to not only earn a living but also have a place where we can recharge to be able to then go out and earn that living. Somebody has to create and maintain that space. If a woman works outside the house, then it’s down to either the man or the housekeeper. I just don’t see the point because I think that in swapping places women have lost their power – or as Sir Guy puts it, importance.
    It’s scary to see so many people these days who look perfectly “unisex”.
    And my pet hate is guys in skinny jeans.

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