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2620. Response to Edith Mcklveen at Post 2618


EDITOR’S NOTE: Her original comment is lower case, GUY’S RESPONSE IN CAPS.

YOUR HIGHNESS EDITH MCKLVEEN,

NOTHING WRONG. I ADMIRE YOUR THINKING ABOUT SHACK UP. YOU PROVIDE A NEW OPPORTUNITY TO DISTINGUISH THE NATURE OF HOW MEN ARE BORN FROM THE LESSONS THEY LEARN IN LIFE. FOR THE FORMER, THEY ARE FAULTLESS. FOR THE LATTER, THEY CAN BE BLAMED, BUT WOMEN FAIL THEMSELVES WHEN THEY DO SO.

PARENTHETICALLY, THE FEMALE ADOPTION OF MASCULINE-STYLE SEXUAL FREEDOM HAS DISTORTED FEMALE THINKING ABOUT MEN. AS THE LEFTIST POLITICAL CLASS PLANNED HALF A CENTURY AGO, MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOW ENEMIES. PERHAPS I CAN SOFTEN SOME OF THE WRONG-HEADED NOTIONS THAT ARISE OUT OF THAT.

WWNH does women a great service by making crystal clear certain basic truths of male-female relationships.  THANKS

This service is absolutely necessary since modern women, in American culture and other cultures, are not being taught these basic truths as they once were. TRUE

This article [2618] makes clear yet again why sex outside marriage is so bad and detrimental to women.

ABSOLUTELY BAD AND DETRIMENTAL AND IT PROMOTES MALES DISRESPECTING AND DOMINEERING FEMALES. BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO ENEMIES, THE PHYSICALITY OF MEN  DOMINATES THE MENTAL ACUITY OF WOMEN AND SOCIETY LOSES IT’S COMPASS AND THE CULTURE WANDERS WITHOUT DIRECTION UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF FEMININE ORDER.

But this particular [SHACK UP] post adds an aspect of male behavior that, for me, actually undercuts the WWNH assertion that men are very practical and rational and wham, bam, thank you ma’am about sex.

AS ARE WOMEN, MEN ARE ALWAYS PRACTICAL AND RATIONAL TO THEMSELVES. IF THERE’S NOTHING WORTHWHILE TO LEAVE BEHIND, THEN POKE, COME, AND GO ARE VERY PRACTICAL AND RATIONAL TO BOTH GENDERS. BUT WOMEN AFTER SEX USUALLY HAVE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE NOT TO LEAVE BEHIND.

IF WOMEN FIND IT IMPRACTICAL AND IRRATIONAL TO DEAL WITH POKE, COME, AND GO, THEY HAVE THE COMPETITIVE ABILITY TO MAKE MEN PAY AN ADVANCE PRICE OF SELF-INVESTMENT, SUCH AS MARRIAGE. EVEN IF MEN CAN’T, WON’T, OR DON’T, BOTH GENDERS ARE BORN TO COMPETE TO GET THEIR WAY WITH OTHERS. WHOEVER DOMINATES THAT PROCESS, WINS IN THE END.

YOUR ASSERTION THAT WWNH UNDERCUTS ITSELF RESTS ON THE PRESUMPTION THAT THE MALE NATURE CANNOT BE DISTINGUISHED FROM LESSONS LEARNED IN LIFE. MEN SHOULD BE HELD AT FAULT ONLY FOR LESSONS LEARNED. IT’S THE MALE NATURE THAT GOD CREATED AND THAT WOMEN MUST PRIMARILY WORK WITH AND EXPLOIT THEIR OWN NATURE DOING SO. THAT IS, IF WOMEN HOPE TO SUCCEED IN FULFILLING THEIR HOPES AND DREAMS.

My view of a man who would be “desperate” to start co-habiting or to continue by shameless manipulation is that he is not merely or only doing the natural male thing.

YOU’RE RIGHT, THOSE ARE LESSONS LEARNED. MEN BY NATURE ARE NOT DESPERATE ABOUT WOMEN. THEY LEARN THAT SHAMELESS MANIPULATION CAN REWARD WITH A SMALL INVESTMENT OF SELF.

He is actually doing something that is warped, that is immature, that actually denies the male-female realities WWNH reminds women of.

EXAMPLES SET BY POOR PARENTING AND IMMATURE TEEN PEERS WARP THE MALE MIND. VALUES AND STANDARDS ADOPTED IN ADOLESCENCE GENERATE IMMATURITY. MASCULINE-STYLE SEXUAL FREEDOM MAKES ADULTOLESCENTS OF MEN.

Co-habitation reinforces for men an immature, actually pre-adolescent view of life. It’s the view that ignores the reality of the existence of women.

JUSTIFIED BY SEXUAL FREEDOM, WOMEN REFUSE TO EARN THE RESPECT OF MEN BY WITHHOLDING CONQUEST. WOMEN ARE CONSEQUENTLY SEEN AS UNRESPECTABLE, UNDESIRABLE EXCEPT FOR SEX, AND TO BE USED AS TOOLS OF MALE PLEASURE. AND THAT’S BEFORE THEY GO OVERWEIGHT AND LOSE THE REST OF MALE INTEREST FOR MARRIAGE.

It’s the [PRE-ADOLESCENT] view that says pleasure and power can be obtained by being persistent, clever, and overwhelming, and responsibility for properly handling pleasure and power can be discarded the moment that responsibility starts to limit enjoyment of pleasure and power.

BOTH SEXES ARE BORN TO GET THEIR WAY WITH THE OTHER. WOMEN USE THEIR FREE WILL TO DISCARD RESPONSIBILITY AS MEN DO; EXAMPLE: WHEN A WOMAN YIELDS TO  CONQUEST OFTEN AGAINST HER BETTER JUDGMENT.

Whether they are gay or straight, it doesn’t matter.  It’s just the male way, built on DNA, hormones, and brain wiring.

I SEE THE POWER/PLEASURE INTERACTION AS COMPETITION, NEGOTIATING, AND THUS NATURAL TO BOTH GENDERS. POWER IS THE PROCESS OF MEN DEALING WITH WOMEN, ENTERTAINMENT IS THE SYSTEM AND PLEASURE OF WHAT WOMEN OFFER WHEN DEALING WITH MEN. NEGOTIATION CALLS FOR BALANCE, BUT MEN LEARN HOW TO DEFEAT WOMEN WHEN WOMEN DON’T LIVE UP TO THEIR DNA, HORMONES, AND BRAIN WIRING.

But I am at a point in my life where I am coming to see that men who function this way are actually not functioning as men were made to function.

MEN ARE FOLLOWING THEIR NATURE TO THE CORE WHEN WOMEN FAIL TO FOLLOW THEIR NATURE TO THE CORE. BOTH SEXES ARE BORN TO BE COMPATIBLE AS MATES AND WILLING AND ABLE TO COMPETE TO GET THEIR WAY. WHEN ONE GOES ASTRAY, THE OTHER FOLLOWS BY TAKING ADVANTAGE. BY FOLLOWING THEIR NATURES, THEY MATCH UP PRETTY EVENLY, AND IT’S A DRAW THAT EARNS MUTUAL RESPECT.

For purposes of teaching and reinforcing WWNH ideas, it is very helpful to isolate instinctive male behavior and look at it separate from female behavior, but that behavior in the real world is not separated from female behavior.

I THOROUGHLY ISOLATE INSTINCTIVE FEMALE MOTIVATION AS WELL AS MALE. SO, AT WWNH, FEMALE BEHAVIOR IN THE REAL WORLD IS NOT SEPARATED FROM MALE BEHAVIOR. I GO FURTHER, MATCH THEIR NATURES AS COMPATIBLE, AND IDENTIFY DIFFERENT MOTIVATIONS AS THEY LEARN DIFFERENT LESSONS IN LIFE.

Men who consistently act as if their male behavior is meant to exist independent and uninfluenced by female behavior . . .

Those are not men as God intends them to be.

YOU MUST MEAN IN RELATION TO WOMEN. NEITHER SEX STANDS ALONE. GOD CREATED A SPECIES THAT HAS TO PERPETUATE ITSELF OR PERISH, AND HE WOULDN’T DO THAT OR WE WOULD HAVE BEEN GONE MILLENNIA AGO. INSTEAD, WE’VE BECOME THE MOST SUCCESSFUL SPECIES, IF WE JUST MEASURE BY EXPLOITATION OF OUR MENTAL ABILITY AND DEVELOPMENT.

Men who use their maleness to get their every selfish desire . . . and who try to try coerce other people when it looks as if what they desire is slipping away . . . those are not truly male men, no matter how much they may look it on the surface.

BOTH SEXES ARE BORN TO COMPETE TO GET THEIR WAY. IF WOMEN ARE LOSING, IT’S NOT THE FAULT OF MEN. IF MEN ARE WINNING, IT’S A PYRRHIC VICTORY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE LOST FAR MORE BY WOMEN LOSING THEIR ABILITY TO HANDLE MEN SUCCESSFULLY IN RELATIONSHIPS.

In my view, however much a man might want sex, if he does not have the ability to patiently wait for it in the context of marriage, and if he is not willing to go into a serious relationship with the idea that it will end in marriage . . . he is no real man.

THAT’S WHY AND HOW WOMEN MAKE REAL MEN. WITHOUT WOMEN NO REAL MAN CAN EXIST, SINCE A WOMAN MEASURES THE REALITY OF A MAN AS SHE THINKS OF HIM AS FIT FOR MATING.

If a man can only be “tricked” into a commitment through a woman’s romantic strategies and is not mature enough to leave her the hell alone if it looks like marriage will not work . . .

SORRY, BUT ROMANTIC STRATEGIES HARNESS WOMEN AND NOT MEN. MEN RELY MORE ON LOGIC, REASON, CURIOSITY, AND IMAGINATION RATHER THAN ROMANTIC FANTASIES THAT MOTIVATE WOMEN TO EXPECT MORE THAN MEN ARE WILLING TO INVEST OF THEMSELVES.

He is not, not, not a man as God intends men to be.

OF COURSE HE IS. HOWEVER, HE’S NOT THE MAN THAT WOMEN OR ONE WOMAN INTENDS HIM TO BE. GOD MADE WOMEN THE GOVERNORS OVER MALE BEHAVIOR. WOMEN ARE ENDOWED WITH THE RELATIONSHIP EXPERTISE, BUT MEN HAVE NOT THE FOGGIEST NOTION OR INTEREST IN HOW TO CREATE, BUILD, OR MANAGE RELATIONSHIPS THAT LAST (ONLY THOSE BUILT AROUND POKE, COME, AND GO).

However much a woman might want him to be The One, she needs to run as far away from him as possible.  Because it is for sure that she will get hurt if she doesn’t.

IT’S WHY GOD MADE WOMEN SO MAGNIFICENTLY ENDOWED TO IDENTIFY, SCREEN, AND REFUSE TO ASSOCIATE WITH THOSE FROM WHOM SHE SHOULD RUN. IF SHE DOESN’T, WHY BLAME MEN?

SHE HAS ALL THE RELATIONSHIP TALENT. SHE HOLDS THE COUPLE/FAMILY UNIT TOGETHER. HE HAS ALL THE HARD-WORK TALENT. HE IS DESIGNED AND HORMONALLY FITTED TO KEEP A RELATIONSHIP PROVIDED, PROTECTED, PROVISIONED, AND WITH PROBLEMS SOLVED.

EXPECT MORE OR SOMETHING ELSE, WITHOUT FIRST RAISING HIM AS A BOY AND LATER CONDITIONING HIS THOUGHTS TO FEMALE ADVANTAGE, AND YOU WILL BE SURPRISED BY A MAN’S LIMITATIONS FOR SATISFYING ONE OR MORE WOMEN.

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